Listen to Season 4, Episode 3 of Beneath the Briefs in which Javier Enriquez and Cheyenne Roberts discuss Trans Day of Remembrance and trans joy with Nomi Imon on Spotify or Apple Podcasts.
Beneath the Briefs Introduction
Javier:
This is Beneath the Briefs, a podcast where we explore the ins and outs…
Cheyenne:
And the in-betweens…
Javier:
Of sex and culture.
Cheyenne:
No topic is off limits.
Javier:
Real conversations you may be too embarrassed to have out loud.
Cheyenne:
So! Prepare to be briefed.
Javier:
Let’s talk about sex, y’all.
Top, Bottom, or Verse? Javier and Cheyenne Share the Deets
Javier:
Good morning!
Cheyenne:
Good evening…
Javier:
And good night! Welcome to episode—
Cheyenne:
(laughing) You caught me off guard. I wasn’t expecting you to say that.
Javier:
Welcome to episode 3, y’all. I am your co-host, Javier, and I use he/him pronouns.
Cheyenne:
And I am your other co-host, Cheyenne, and I use she/her pronouns.
Javier:
I want to talk about some sexy stuff on the front of the show. Yeah, so we were talking right before we were recording, and Cheyenne was like, “Javier, what are you?”
And I’m like, “What do you mean?”
And she was like, “Are you like, top, bottom, verse?”
And I said, “Oh, yeah, I’m a verse.”
And she was like, “Mm.”
Cheyenne:
Yeah, ’cause you give bottom?
Javier:
I give bottom? What about–?
Cheyenne:
No, you give top. You really give top.
Javier:
What?! You just said before this podcast that I give bottom.
Cheyenne:
No, I don’t know though. I don’t know. I don’t know.
You are somewhere out in the ether with your… With your energy. I don’t—I don’t know. I can’t—I can’t pin you. I can’t pin you.
Javier:
Okay, I feel like maybe that’s verse energy then.
Cheyenne:
Maybe. Yeah. Yeah, that gives verse.
It does give verse.
Javier:
Yeah, just for me, it just depends on the person and the vibe. Yeah, like, sometimes like, “Oh, like, well, you’re really strong. Oh, you have really strong hands. Wow.”
Cheyenne:
I wish y’all could see my face because I’m rolling my eyes. I am definitely a pillow princess.
Javier:
Oh, you put the bottom in lobotomy.
Cheyenne:
I consider myself a pillow princess, but like, I still get down with my partner.
Javier:
Okay, get down on it.
Javier and Cheyenne:
(singing) Get down on it! Get down on it!
Cheyenne:
But yeah, no, I definitely am a pillow princess, but like, I can switch it up every once in a while. But I prefer to be with like, a stone top.
Javier:
Elaborate on what a pillow princess means. Is that—are you like just laying on the pillow? Are you face—like, is your face planted in the pillow? I never understood.
Cheyenne:
It’s like the equivalent of being a bottom, but just for a girl.
Javier:
So, guys can’t be pillow princesses?
Cheyenne:
That’s not what I’m saying. It’s like we—I don’t use the term bottom because like, that’s mostly used in, like…
Javier:
Like, gay men’s spaces?
Cheyenne:
Yeah, yeah, exactly. And so, like pillow princess has been like kind of coined for like, the like, sapphic and like, femme presenting.
Javier:
Really? I have some sapphic friends who use bottom. Well, I think the big difference that I’ve heard—because a lot of my sapphic friends do use top and bottom, but they don’t have verse. They use the word switch.
Cheyenne:
Switch. Yeah. So like, I think it just really depends on who you’re talking to. Because like, I know with like in my friend group, we don’t really say like bottom. We say like pillow princess and switch and stuff like that.
Javier:
Well, you’re the lesbian, so you have more of the authority.
Cheyenne:
That’s just me. But like, I have heard that in other spaces, though. But yeah, so I am a pillow princess through and through and I require a stone top.
But like, if my partner isn’t the stone top, that’s fine.
Javier:
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, I love that. Yeah.
Today we’re going to be focusing on the trans community as we dive deeper into concepts around Trans Day of Remembrance.
Cheyenne:
T-D-O-R.
Javier:
What is Trans Day of Remembrance?
Cheyenne:
So, Trans Day of Remembrance is a day to commemorate the transgender, non-binary, and gender non-conforming persons who are targeted and killed for living authentically and courageously. It started in, I believe, in 1999 by transgender advocate Gwendolyn Ann Smith as a vigil to honor the memory of Rita Hester, a transgender woman who was senselessly murdered in 1998. And that is, I believe, according to GLAAD.org.
I also looked up something else where it was saying that 91% of murders were caused by men who were insecure. And I think that—I think that study was done in like 2015. And I just, that number is high. 91%?!
Javier:
Also, it’s not even those numbers. And obviously we’re in 2023 and not 2015, but when people typically take inventory of the data surrounding trans lives lost and how many of those lives are commemorated for Trans Day of Remembrance, they oftentimes don’t include the numbers of trans lives lost by suicide. And these are deaths that could have been avoided with proper resources and intervention. And to know that they live in a community that loves them back.
Cheyenne:
Yeah. Just a pure lack of support.
Javier:
Yeah.
Cheyenne:
Pure lack of support.
Javier:
Yeah. I’m excited. I’m excited to have Nomi Imad, our first guest of the season.
And she’s coming out to talk about the experience of being a trans person, some of the struggles, but more importantly, the highlights and the joy that it is to be a part of the trans experience. So, I’m really excited to get into it.
Cheyenne:
I’m really excited too. I feel like she’s going to be great. So, I’m ready to learn some more about her.
Javier:
Alright. Then we will get to Nomi right after this quick break.
(Theme music)
A Trans Day of Remembrance and Trans Joy Discussion with Nomi Imad
Javier:
Alright! We have a very special guest. Our first guest of season four of Beneath the Briefs.
Cheyenne:
That’s exciting.
Javier:
Please welcome Nomi Imad. What up, Nomi?
Nomi:
Hey, I’m happy to be here with y’all.
Javier:
Excited to have you here for sure.
So, I know Nomi. We are in a sexual health advisory group here in Prism Health North Texas. And we talk about how to make sexual health services accessible to everyone, especially the most marginalized folks, like Black, brown, trans, and so on. And I got to know Nomi for a few months now.
And yeah, I don’t want to give any spoilers. Nomi, what are you about? What do you do?
Tell the folks.
Nomi:
I kind of just be myself and live my life, you know, and being myself and living my life has led me to you, has led me to these places. A lot of people know me as a performing artist, and sometimes that put me in a lot of different spaces to be seen. And people actually get to know me and know my background.
Cheyenne:
Nice. So, you’re into performing arts. What do you do?
Nomi:
Well, when I say performing arts, I’m actually into music. Most of my training is in music and classical dance. So, I danced in places such as the opera. I trained with Debbie Allen.
Cheyenne:
Nice! Wait… Debbie Allen? Hold on. Okay, now am I starstruck?
Nomi:
Yes.
Cheyenne:
That’s really cool.
Nomi:
Here in Dallas, Texas, I actually trained with the Dallas Black Dance Theater. Yeah. But that’s one of the companies that actually kept me protected for a long time and out of the streets and away from certain things and allowed me to experience like, so many things that actually made me the person that a lot of people love today.
Like, you know?
Javier:
I have not seen you perform, but I heard that you can buck, and you can get down and you will get into it. I’m so curious, how did you feel like you grew into your identity?
Nomi:
I feel like I had to take time away from controlled environments. I’m very disciplined, even though I’m a wild girl. I like to have fun and live my life.
I had to take time away from controlled environments to really learn who I am in society, not just by what I see, but literally what I’m inspired by. I take a swim in a random ocean. When you do things like that that connect you to nature and then you come back around people, that’s what sets you apart.
If that answers your question, that’s the best way that I kind of can. Me growing into who I am, I always felt very like, mixed spirited, not too gendered. Of course, I know I’m a transgender woman.
I’ve always been connected to that at a very young age, and I have spent a lot of time with nature. I understand that no matter what, we are nature.
Javier:
I love that. No, I love that. I do.
Cheyenne:
I love that too.
Javier:
And on today’s podcast, we are also going to be talking about Trans Day of Remembrance and what that means to people. And I know that a lot of our trans siblings that we have lost over time have been lost to sexual violence or men who are really insecure with their masculinity. What does Trans Day of Remembrance mean to you?
Nomi:
Trans Day of Remembrance to me is kind of like when we lose our trans brothers and sisters, we actually lose them to the same things that we lose regular family members to. What makes it different is we’re sometimes normally forgotten or people don’t care or they halfway care. They want to share the news, but don’t really move forward with that.
So, with Trans Day of Remembrance, it would be great to find more ways to prevent those things, so we don’t have to be remembered. Like, we need to remember the women that got to grow old and live their life and pass naturally.
Javier:
I heard from one of my friends when they turned 25, they said that they can be considered a trans elder because, so often for trans people, to grow old—it’s to reach an age like 30 because of so many social factors that trans people have to endure and face. And to just make it to 25 is a huge mile marker. And that’s just what I’ve heard from my trans friends in particular and how they kind of like they jokingly always call each other like trans elders because they’ve made it this far. They’re always saying that as a term of endearment.
Cheyenne:
Yeah. You know, it’s really interesting to like draw from my experience and like look at it as like a parallel and be like, wow, these are not conversations that I have to have. And so being that I don’t have to have these conversations, or I’ve never been in those spaces to hear those conversations, it is really sad how we don’t highlight that and how the rest of the world really doesn’t.
If you’re not in the community or if you don’t have friends in the community, you’ll just never know because a lot of that information is either not accurate because nobody’s updating it, or you’re just not interested in going and finding out. So, this is like really important to hear. And I think more people need to hear it.
They really do. Some people are able to conceptualize, and then there’s other people that just choose not to conceptualize like, what goes on and the kind of violence that goes on, especially towards trans women and men. They don’t want to conceptualize, they don’t want to think about what goes on in that community because they think it’s just too much to handle. But it’s like we had to do our part to help. It’s like we can’t just ignore that.
We can’t ignore the plights of other communities just because we’re not a part of the community.
Javier:
Like you said, the information is just not always out there and always out there accurately. Speaking to our friends from Equality Texas, they told us that over this past year from November 1st to October 31st—today is November 1st, so it’s the beginning of a reporting period at time of recording—43 trans people lost their lives this year due to either violence or to self-harm. And a lot of those numbers don’t even report the whole picture because police departments won’t always see something as a hate crime. Or families, whenever their child passes, they will misgender their child in obituaries and with their information and they don’t carry on like who they actually were. So those numbers are typically underreported.
Nomi:
Yeah. And families are very ignorant towards that. And that’s something that would not upset me, not to say my family is just ignorant, but there do be like certain people in the family.
So, if something was to happen, it’s like, you know—things like, happen. Like, I feel like my family know me enough now to where that would not be allowed to happen. But then you just still never know.
Cheyenne:
Yeah.
Nomi:
To be completely honest, like, you know how I want to be dressed. My name is my name. Like, I haven’t got to the point to where it’s like changed legally just yet.
But right when I was ready to do that, that’s when Texas changed the whole (indecipherable).
Cheyenne:
And that just happened recently, right?
Nomi:
Yeah. But to my knowledge, like you—you bring that up, it is a big deal. And I’m getting dramatic about it, but not dramatic about it.
But I don’t want to drag my family or play the victim to certain things because I don’t play the victim with like, nobody. At the end of the day, my spirit is my spirit. When it pass, it don’t matter what’s going on in that casket, in that church house, wherever it is.
To get back to what you were saying about—when I turned 32 this year, I never would have thought of myself as a trans elder. But I did have a moment where I was just crying hysterically, and I couldn’t even pull myself together to go to my skate party.
Javier:
Yeah.
Nomi:
And I wasn’t crying because I was sad. I was crying because I was actually happy that I got to see that age. And it’s not just happy that I got to see the age, but I’ve been going through things recently, like the month before, I could have not been here.
Just from passing around people on the street, telling a man, no, anything could happen. I got a fear of driving now because a lot of stuff has happened to me, kind of like at gas stations, where I’m just trying to pump my gas and there’s men walking up to the car following me out the gas station or trying to come in my door. A lot of different things happen.
So that is something that should be celebrated. Yeah. I do know trans women that are older than me. We can survive.
Javier:
Yeah. And we’re stronger together. That’s basically what it is. Period.
Cheyenne:
Stronger in numbers. Yeah.
Javier:
Absolutely. So, I also wanted to say that Nomi kind of coming into herself when you’re telling your story about how you just turned 32 and you’re proud of yourself for getting this far and how you see yourself as a trans elder…
Nomi is one of the most fertile mothers I have ever seen.
Nomi has—how many kids do you have now?
Nomi:
I have 23 kids.
Javier:
23 kids. Am I number 23?
Nomi:
You’re actually 24.
Cheyenne and Javier:
(in unison) Ooohhh!
Javier:
Nomi asked me the day, like, “Do you want to be my son?” And I’m like, “Okay, sure.” So now I’m on the house of Imon, I guess. I don’t know.
Cheyenne:
Nice, nice.
Nomi:
My chosen kids, I feel like we all have different personality traits, or I feel like when I adopt a child, most of the time they come to me. But I like to bring in people where I feel like this child can help this one, this one can help this one. And that’s what builds our community.
I have daughters that do stuff like, they might do hair, and I’ll connect them. I have cisgender kids. I like to connect them like that.
I have kids that work in healthcare. I might have a child that might be like, not a night worker, but you know, like a little exotic dancer, things of that sort. And I feel like that’s what makes a family.
A lot of people say quality over quantity, but why can’t the quantity have quality?
Javier:
Ayyyy!
Cheyenne:
Okay, that is a word actually. We may have to use that for a caption or something. But, you know, that actually brings me to my next question. What led you to kind of wanting to be a mentor?
Nomi:
I feel like I had great mentors in my life and I didn’t pick them. God led them to me. So, I feel like it’s literally my responsibility to use the resources and the knowledge that I have. Not only that knowledge that I have—I have to also continue to seek knowledge. So that puts me in a mentor space. When people come up to me and tell me what inspires them about me, sometimes they literally tell me things that I might not have noticed within myself. So, I carry that.
Javier:
And so, I definitely—speaking of fertility, I want to get into the sex part, the spicy part.
Nomi and Cheyenne:
Oooh, yeah.
Nomi:
(singing) Get it, sexyyy.
Group:
(singing) Get it, sexy!
Javier:
So, I want to know how you kind of came into your sexuality because I know—if it’s okay for me to share? You know, you’re a bisexual woman, currently maybe dating someone.
Nomi:
Oh, my God. Did I say [to] say that?
Cheyenne:
Oh goodness!
Javier:
How did you come into your sexuality?
Nomi:
I feel like, to be completely honest… So, I’ve always been very much attracted to both equally.
I go after who comes after me and show me who was clear that they want me. But I feel like sex is an experience. You can have you got to have sex with people you feel safe around, not only people that you’re sexually attracted to. Like, people be like, let’s just go with the flow.
Let’s let things happen naturally. Like, no, don’t go with the flow. I want you to be very intentional about what you want to do to my body.
Even if you don’t tell me still have that intention; still manifest that great sexual healing, baby.
Javier:
Yeah!
Nomi:
Yes.
Javier:
Because sex is about communication.
Nomi:
Yeah, it really is.
Cheyenne:
It is. But that’s what makes it good. Yeah.
Yeah. I’m a firm believer in trying everything at least once. Everything at least once.
Javier:
Maybe twice.
Cheyenne:
Maybe twice, if the first time was not good. But definitely everything once.
Nomi:
That’s what Tank said. The singer Tank.
Cheyenne:
You know what? He probably did say that.
Javier:
What’s his—Taint?!
Cheyenne and Nomi:
TANK!
Cheyenne:
With that being said, like, when… Was there like, An Experience that you had that made you be like, “Okay, like, let me kind of like, really try to sit down and understand what I want for my partner, especially during sex.” When did you kind of come to that point?
Nomi:
I feel like a lot of us was introduced to sex like really early.
Cheyenne:
Yeah.
Nomi:
Even though I started having sex [earlier], I didn’t know what it really meant to be sexually active until I was like 24. When I was 24, I had a partner. I was like, “Oh, this is… I’ve been having SEX.”
No, first I was a virgin. Then I was like, having sex. But this is sexually act-IVE.
Cheyenne:
I get that.
Nomi:
Those kind of experiences—like, moving forward… Even though I’m a sexual person, people see me naked all the time. They might think I get bussed down. They might think I get paid for sex.
But like, there’s a point in my life where I could not have sex for like, two years or like, three years. And it was like, “Okay, well, it’s getting sexy time.” And then I like, take another break. Like, it’s literally been like probably months since I had sex, at this point now today.
And the first thing I go to is asking them about sexual health. Why can we have normal conversations about sex, but we can’t talk about the sexual health aspect of it? Because even if you don’t get to have sex with me, you still need to know how to protect yourself with your next partner.
Javier:
Exactly.
Nomi:
Or if your next partner got something that they want to say to you and that’s your person, you already heard it from someone before.
Javier:
Communication is prevention.
Cheyenne and Nomi:
Yes, yeah.
Nomi:
And that’s what’s most important to me. I feel like that protects me a lot as well. We’re moving forward.
Like, I don’t know. I just really like take that on. And I’m proud of it.
Javier:
Hell yeah.
So, question: Like, how has that been different from like your experience of having to have sex coming more into your own like trans identity?
Has it been like difficult for other people? Has it been difficult for you?
Nomi:
I mean, to me, it’s literally the same thing. Yeah. It’s the same thing.
Like I have the same body parts. I just got bigger titties now.
So, it’s literally the same thing.
I would say it’s not like I don’t have nothing new to try. But I feel like I’ve just about done everything.
Cheyenne:
What kind of advice would you give someone that has newly come out as trans? And then for our trans individuals that are younger and have been trans probably like, since maybe like, they’re 13 or something like that—when it comes to navigating dating and sexual experiences.
That was a very long question.
Nomi:
It was a long question. I’m very proud. Like, I think I retained it.
One thing I would say is what I hear a lot of the trans elders say. And it’s oversaturated. It’s kind of generic, but it’s “take your time” because it’s very important.
Cheyenne:
Yeah.
Nomi:
It’s nothing wrong with that. But I would say let your experience be your experience. Not only from letting your experience be your experience, it reminds you that you’re a human.
Like, just because you decide to transition, don’t let that be so heavy on the fact of transitioning. Life is heavy enough. Little do you know people that’s not even transitioning, they’re struggling with the same things that have them feeling down and oppressed as well.
Make sure that you are sexually educated and on top of your health. And even if you’re not, don’t be scared to ask questions from professionals. Don’t be scared to open up and talk to your friends about certain things, whether it’s a “ha ha hee hee” or you’re being sarcastic.
A conversation is a conversation. Knowledge is knowledge. Energy is energy.
Remember to always be yourself, no matter who that is. The people that come into your life that can help you or you feel like they can guide you, they’re still not going to understand your past experiences. And you don’t want to keep taking yourself backwards to explain that to the next person you meet, the next person you meet.
Just move forward. If you want to transition, transitions go high, they go low, but you want to continue to move forward because at the end of the day, your transition is never going to end.
Javier:
Yeah. Yeah. I love that.
Cheyenne:
Yeah. That answers my question. So, I’m happy.
I hope someone can take that away and, you know, pass it on to somebody else or someone that really is in need of it.
Nomi:
And remember to say no. Say no.
Cheyenne:
Yes. Yes. Yes. That is something that’s big too, just being able to say no.
Nomi:
And another thing, if you’re transitioning, don’t look at the other girls that’s already been transitioning on social media. You can have an inspired look, but feel beautiful within yourself from how you are because a lot of people do fall into depressions from comparing themselves to other people. But you don’t know how they got there. You might not have the same strength to do what they did to get to those points.
Javier:
Yeah.
Nomi:
You got to use your own power for yourself. Like, you know?
Javier:
Yeah.
Nomi:
But that’s all.
Javier:
And if you can’t love yourself every step of the way, then you’re not going to love yourself when you eventually reach that point you’re trying to reach.
Nomi:
That part.
Javier:
Well, that’s really awesome.
I guess, just one fun question:
Cheyenne:
Okay.
Javier:
What’s like, a sex hot take, or what is like, a sex tip that you have or something fun you got for us?
Nomi:
Um, don’t be scared to suck it, and don’t be scared to lick it. And flick it.
Javier:
Nomi for president. 2020 what?
Cheyenne and Nomi:
Eight.
Javier:
’Cause 2020…ate.
Cheyenne:
Exactly!
Nomi:
Period.
Javier:
Well, that’s all the questions that we have. Thank you so much, Nomi, for being here.
Nomi:
No problem.
Cheyenne:
Yes, just thank you, Nomi. It was a pleasure talking to you.
Hopefully we can stay connected after this because I would love to.
Nomi:
Yeah!
Javier:
How can the listeners follow you?
Nomi:
You can follow me by checking in with Prism [Health North Texas], and also Prism [Health North Texas] will make sure that you stay connected with me.
Javier:
Okay. Alright. Well, thank you so much, Nomi.
Now let’s go to our commercial break.
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Javier:
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Trans Day of Remembrance and Trans Joy: Wrap-Up Discussion
Cheyenne:
Welcome back, y’all. I thoroughly enjoyed Nomi’s discussion. How did you feel?
Javier:
I love Nomi. Nomi’s always just a good time gal.
Cheyenne:
Oh yeah. She’s a great time. You know, I really will say that talking to Nomi has really opened up my eyes to the trans experience.
And I can just really appreciate the fact that she’s learned so much, and she’s like, so willing to give back to the community, whether they’re, like she says, cisgendered or trans. And the fact that she took on the role of being a mentor after learning how to be a good mentor for her mentors, it’s just so important because again, it’s a lonely role, likely being trans. So, I can only imagine.
Javier:
It can be.
Cheyenne:
It can be, yeah. You know, newly stepping into being trans or already being like, you know, established as a trans individual, it can just get very lonely. So, taking those people up under your wing, I definitely commend her for that for sure. How did you feel, Javier?
Javier:
Yeah, I agree with what you said. I also love the power of being able to develop a chosen family. Like, maybe your immediate family isn’t as supportive, but then you can just create your own.
And that’s something I’ve always loved about being a part of the queer community. And I love it even more so for the trans community who really embrace chosen families and then having houses historically and whatever. And that’s how we have seen them create this network of support, which is really, really beautiful.
Whenever I’m hanging out with Nomi, she’s always talking about, “Oh yeah, I was hanging out with my brother,” or “I was hanging out with my sister.” And she’s never referring to anyone who’s actually blood related. She’s talking about all of her people in her life who truly care for her and that who she really cares for.
And especially with everything going on in the world and here in the US with elections coming up and trans existence being put under fire, it’s important to have those networks of support. And it’s important to be seen because existence is resistance, and I want all of my trans siblings to continue thriving.
So, if you are not doing anything on Saturday, November 23rd, Equality Texas, one of our lovely partners with Prism Health North Texas is hosting a Trans Day of Remembrance vigil. You can look up more information by checking out Equality Texas on Instagram or on their website.
Next episode, I’m sure we’re going to talk a little bit about post-election, what the world is looking like, how do we navigate things going forward, and the standing of some of our healthcare systems, and things that matter to us—and also how to navigate family because it’s going to be the Thanksgiving episode.
So, we’re going to have a lot of interesting stuff to talk about, but I’m really excited to do that.
And if you have any questions for that episode, if you need any advice or have any tips, you can send us an email where?
Cheyenne:
Javier:
Again, that’s…
Cheyenne:
Javier:
We will see you next time.
Cheyenne:
Buh-byyyye.
Javier:
(makes smooching sound)
Cheyenne:
Oh, please!
Beneath the Briefs: “Remembering, Resilience & Real Talk” Outro
Javier:
Beneath the Briefs is produced by Javier Enriquez, Cheyenne Roberts, Tri McBath, Trevor Frank, Andie Carver, and Marquesse Banks, executively produced by Januari Fox, and edited by Javier Enriquez. The Beneath the Briefs podcast is supported and powered by Prism Health North Texas.
Cheyenne:
The opinions, personalities, and views expressed on Beneath the Briefs are solely those of the individuals and do not reflect those of Prism Health North Texas and its employees. The information shared on this podcast is not intended to be a substitute for professional medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment, and is intended for educational purposes only. Thank you.